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One most also bear ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

One most also bear in mind relative to Ron Paul's idea of the gold standard is that this was a suggestion. Why he chose a gold standard when Kennedy for example, desired to have it backed by silver, is something else; but in either case, the idea was the same, and if it wasn't an idea that would be best for Americans, then one should question why both men were silenced.

Well, Ron Paul was ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

Well, Ron Paul was silenced because his initial appeal was tarnished by racist remarks that allowed into a news letter he made and also because of the naivetee of his overall platform. If you're implying the Kennedy was assassinated by the government, and that it happened because he was trying to impose a silver standard, then I think you need to recognize that you're probably making a few pretty big logical leaps there in trying to prove a point.

I'm probably not ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

I'm probably not the best person to explain why it's a bad idea to attach the value of our dollar solely to gold, or silver, or platinum, or rubies, or cobalt, or magnesium, or anything that comes out of the earth, but I already gave you the basic idea: because the value of these items has very little correlation to the myriad of factors that influence economic conditions. If that natural resources value changes dramatically (up or down), which it inevitably will...

I don't know about ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

I don't know about implementing all of his changes; but what I do know of some of the history of the federal reserve, is that it is foolish to allow bankers to be in control of that which the govt should be. The families that are behind the fed - the Rockefellers, Walburgs, Rothschilds, are not in the best interest of the people. The bailout for example was a band-aid that only further empowered. A semi private bank might have some merit the existing one though.

...you'd see why ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

...you'd see why it's completely illogical to have attached the value of the dollar to it: you're going from a system where the imaginary money is influenced by all of the other imaginary money, to a system where the imaginary money is influenced exclusively by the value of the finite resource (as valued in imaginary money anyway, but not in a way that's in any way stable or tied strongly to the realities of real world goings-on besides fashion and circuit boards and demand for Goldschallger).

That is still the ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

That is still the best alternative to a dollar that is supported by nothing and which the value of is contingent upon how much of it is in circualtion. Printing more money out of thin air is what has been done and creates only debt. Now were there no debt or interest attached to that dollar, it might be different; but the federal reserve is a supreme court deem corporation in the business of profit; a profit at our expense. And while I can appreciate you not readily accepting that...

Okay, I knew we ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

Okay, I knew we were going to come out with this when you said you'd researched the Federal Reserve. Watching Zeitgeist does not count as research, nor does watching YouTube videos made by watching people who watched Zeitgeist. Since you're a critical thinker, please look into where you're getting your information, and if it's from an echo chamber, then you're not doing research, you're looking for ideas to confirm what you already want to believe.

without a viable ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

without a viable alternative I can't see not accepting it over the existing practice. I think what's not being considered and that neither of us can actually explain, is that what you describe relative to mineral value increasing and decreasing, is not only subject at present to the existing monetary system, but market influences and changes; which we already know are somewhat manufactured. There's more here than meets the eye obviously. and a gold or silver standard would naturally not only...

a gold or silver ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

a gold or silver standard would naturally not only alter the current monetary system, but that monetary system would also affect the price of gold and silver differently than it does today.

The viable ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

The viable alternative system would be an entirely electronic system, which will come soon enough, but not without a bunch of people who watched Zeitgeist bitching about the new world order. I'm all in favor of being critical of government, but I don't think that conspiracy theorists realize that by conjuring up the most convoluted, wacky, exciting worldview they can, it prevents them from expending nay thought or energy on the real-yet-boring problems that actually affect them.

You knew it would ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

You knew it would come to that because you know your tendency to assume; and while I did watch Zeitgeist, what I know of the federal reserve, I know from the teachings of Murry M. Rothbard- Economist. I am not an authority; nor do I pretend to be; but just because hisa video might be on youtube or any other site in this information age, doesn't invalidate it or make it any less credible. Histroy books given in schools have been found to contain inaccuracies and a distortion of facts.

Careful of what you ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

Careful of what you allege one guilty of. i.e. accepting only that which supports my beliefs, while you dismiss any that contradict your own. If I make any suppositions, I will present it as such, and not as fact. On the other hand, If I learn something from someone deemed as a credible and reliable source, I will believe that person or teachings, until I disprove it through some practical application myself, or someone more credible than my source can prove what I learned to be inaccurate.

Well, okay, I am ... ( 2 weeks ago by randombutler)

Well, okay, I am certainly glad to hear that you're not getting this stuff simply from Zeitgeist, although keep in mind that movie has really tainted the well for legitimate criticism of the Federal Reserve. I am about done internet arguing but if you have anything you want me to research or look into feel free to message me with links or names.

I missed this one ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

I missed this one or would've responded to it sooner. I almost ignored it from a desire to not come across as vindicating myself; but I'll chance that rather than let you have the last word. 1. Deep seeded insecurity about my actual intelligence...Anyone who actually knows me, knows that others are quicker to give me more credit for my intellect than I actually give myself, and some of them are far more knowledgeable and quick witted than myself.

2. As for my ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

2. As for my standing in society...It wouldn't miss me, and I wouldn't miss it. a log cabin in the mountains with my wife would suit me fine. I see society as purely materialistic, self absorbed, selfish and inconsiderate; measuring the worth of others and themselves, based upon what they have or don't have. I see little good in it.

3. As for what you ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

3. As for what you perceive as 'holier-than-thou videos'...You are the first to view them as such; and if one person views them that way, others may see them similarly. I analyze their tone to see how they can be perceived as such, and where needed, I will correct that in the future. The whole objective is to on some level, offend to affect a change. You may not agree with it; but such is my way. I'm not here to make Internet friends.

4. and ever your ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

4. and ever your M.C. Escher background graphic? At one time I was a freelance pen & ink graphic artist; and since childhood, I admired Escher for the detail. I see his work as detailed oriented, chaotic and orderly all rolled into one; the same way I not only view myself, but have been accused of being. This is why I chose his art. As for my moniker, one thing that has angered many about me is my analytical nature. Analytical mind was taken. Case closed

5."create a picture ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

5."create a picture of somebody who finds their place in the world not by trying to understand what they are, but by coming up with a static picture of what they AREN'T." In an effort to understand others, one must first understand themselves; for if one understands their own motivations, it provides as a basis for understanding those of others. I know who I am, and couldn't care less about what people think about me.

I only even provide ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

I only even provide you with what I have, as so that you may know you are not as intuitive as you think you are.

Quote-I enjoyed how ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

Quote-I enjoyed how Ron Paul supporters egregiously cheated in straw polls and internet polls and then got angry when the media coverage wasn't proportional to the level which their (mostly) fake votes stacked up. Did you guys seriously expect people to take your fringe candidate seriously when the only venues in which he could win were ones where his supporters could cheat their way into a portion of the vote that
was blatantly unrepresentative of the reality of the make-up of the electorate

"You come online ... ( 2 weeks ago by CriticalTh1nker)

"You come online and argue with people by putting them down as a part of the mentality that leads you to laud Ron Paul" With your initial comment in mind...How did that differ from what you allege I do, if it offends anyone? There is no difference. I immediately perceived it as a put down; just as you perceive my videos to be 'holier than thou,' and there must therefore be some truth to that, for either to be construed as such, such is the language and tone of your opening comment.

He get the money ... ( 2 weeks ago by EskolainenKarma)

He get the money because he deserve it. He is a human being

campaignforliberty ... ( 1 week ago by fishbuc11)

campaignforliberty breakthebailout

fuck yea, ron paul ... ( 1 week ago by syndrah)

fuck yea, ron paul for pres 2012

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